Bits + Bips: Bitcoin Brushes Off Another War & Will Powell Relent on Rates? - Ep. 857
Bits + Bips: Bitcoin Brushes Off Another War & Will Powell Relent on Rates? - Ep. 857
318 days agoUnchainedLaura Shin
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Quick Insights

Consider positioning in assets like Solana (SOL) and XRP ahead of potential spot ETF approvals, which analysts believe have a high probability of occurring this year. The massive success of spot Bitcoin (BTC) ETFs signals strong, ongoing institutional demand, reinforcing its long-term investment case as a core holding. Exercise extreme caution with Circle (CRCL), as its high valuation is driven by a low supply of shares that will significantly increase when the 180-day post-IPO lock-up period expires. A key potential catalyst for crypto is the possibility of the Federal Reserve cutting interest rates more aggressively than currently expected. For broader exposure, watch for upcoming crypto index ETFs that will offer a diversified and potentially less volatile investment option.

Detailed Analysis

Bitcoin (BTC)

  • Bitcoin was highlighted as the only global macro asset trading 24/7 during the peak geopolitical uncertainty over the weekend, showing its unique position in financial markets.
  • Anthony Scaramucci stated one reason to own Bitcoin is because "you live in a surveillance state," suggesting it offers a degree of financial sovereignty.
  • The discussion referenced the dramatic shift in institutional sentiment, exemplified by BlackRock's Larry Fink. He went from hating Bitcoin in November 2021 to launching one of the most successful ETFs in history.
  • The US spot Bitcoin ETFs are described as a "$130 billion behemoth," underscoring the massive scale of new investment and demand.

Takeaways

  • Bitcoin continues to prove its use case as a 24/7 global market that reacts in real-time to geopolitical events, acting as a potential hedge against instability.
  • The success of the spot Bitcoin ETFs signals that mainstream institutional and retail adoption is not just beginning, but is already happening at a massive scale. This provides a strong long-term tailwind for the asset.

Circle (CRCL)

  • The stock is described as trading like a "meme stock" due to its massive run-up post-IPO. Its market cap is noted as being "insane" at just shy of $60 billion, compared to Coinbase's $78 billion.
  • The panel suggests the initial buying frenzy was driven by institutions wanting exposure to the regulated stablecoin space.
  • A key factor driving the price is its "ultra tight free float," with only about 15% of shares available for trading. A significant amount of shares will remain locked up for 180 days post-IPO, restricting supply.
  • Due to the low float, fundamentals are seen as not mattering in the short term. However, long-term risks include margin compression as competition in the stablecoin market increases with new legislation.
  • Short interest is high at 18-19% of the float, but panelists warn that shorting the stock is extremely risky until the float increases.

Takeaways

  • CRCL is currently a high-risk, momentum-driven stock. Its valuation is not supported by traditional fundamentals but by scarcity and "meme stock" dynamics.
  • Investors should be cautious. While the price could continue to rise in the short term, the eventual expiration of the 180-day lock-up period will significantly increase the supply of shares on the market, which could put downward pressure on the price.
  • The long-term business faces headwinds from new competitors entering the stablecoin market, which could erode Circle's market share and profitability.

Potential Crypto ETFs (SOL, XRP, ADA, etc.)

  • Bloomberg ETF analyst James Seyffart gives 90-95% odds that spot ETFs for a wave of new crypto assets will be approved this year.
  • Assets with a high probability of approval include Litecoin (LTC), Solana (SOL), XRP, Dogecoin (DOGE), Cardano (ADA), Polkadot (DOT), HBAR, and Avalanche (AVAX).
  • The primary reason for this optimism is the belief that the SEC will establish a clear framework for approval. A key factor will likely be whether an asset has a CFTC-regulated futures market, which many of these do on platforms like Coinbase.
  • Following the Grayscale legal precedent, if a futures ETF is allowed, it becomes very difficult for the SEC to deny a spot ETF for the same asset.
  • Demand for these individual altcoin ETFs is expected to be significantly lower than for Bitcoin. They are viewed more as "trading vehicles."
  • Basket and index products that hold a diversified mix of these assets are expected to see stronger, more sustained demand, particularly from financial advisors.

Takeaways

  • The potential approval of multiple new crypto ETFs is a major upcoming catalyst for the asset class. This would make it much easier for retail and institutional investors to gain exposure to a wider range of cryptocurrencies beyond Bitcoin and Ethereum.
  • Investors could consider positioning in assets like SOL and XRP ahead of potential ETF approvals. However, the price impact may be more muted compared to the Bitcoin ETF launch due to lower expected demand.
  • For those looking for broader, less concentrated exposure, upcoming crypto index ETFs could be an attractive and potentially less volatile option.

Macro & Thematic Insights

Federal Reserve Rate Policy

  • A key debate is the future path of interest rates. The market is pricing in two rate cuts by the end of the year, while the Fed is signaling only one.
  • Anthony Scaramucci argues the Fed has room to cut rates by 100 basis points (1%) this year. He believes the Fed uses "antiquated" inflation metrics and that real-time data from sources like Truflation.com shows inflation is already lower than official figures suggest.
  • The Fed's caution is partly attributed to the risk of tariff-triggered inflation and political pressure.

Takeaways

  • If the Fed is forced to cut rates more aggressively than they currently project, it would likely be a strong positive catalyst for risk assets like stocks and cryptocurrencies.
  • Investors should monitor both official inflation data (CPI) and alternative, real-time sources to gauge the true state of inflation, as this will be a key driver of Fed policy.

Oil Market

  • The price of oil recently spiked from ~$62 to over $77 per barrel on fears of the Iran-Israel conflict escalating.
  • The price has since fallen back to around $67, as the market believes the conflict has de-escalated and a worst-case scenario was avoided.
  • The panel's consensus is that Iran is unlikely to close the Strait of Hormuz, a critical shipping lane, because its economy depends on the oil revenue.

Takeaways

  • The geopolitical risk premium that was recently priced into oil has significantly decreased. The market is signaling that the immediate threat of a major supply disruption is low, suggesting oil prices may stabilize or fall further barring new escalations.

Stablecoin Legislation

  • The new stablecoin bill is seen as a net positive for bringing regulatory clarity to the space.
  • However, it contains provisions written by the "American Banking Association" lobby that are designed to limit competition with traditional banks.
  • The most significant of these is the prohibition on paying interest on stablecoin balances.
  • The panel agrees that the industry will likely find creative workarounds, such as offering "marketing rewards" or products that allow users to easily convert stablecoins into interest-bearing tokenized money market funds.

Takeaways

  • Regulatory clarity is bullish for the overall stablecoin sector. However, the rules may favor traditional financial players and create headwinds for pure-play crypto companies.
  • The inability to directly pay interest is a negative, but technology and innovation will likely find ways to offer users a yield, mitigating the impact of this rule over time.
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Episode Description
As tensions flare between Iran and Israel, investors are watching oil, gold, and, of course, crypto. In this episode of Bits + Bips, the panel digs into the market response to war risk, the chances the Fed will actually cut rates, and how Circle’s IPO is being treated more like a meme stock than a fintech play. Plus: Why Scaramucci says we’re all living in a surveillance state  Whether stablecoins are being kneecapped by U.S. regulation  When altcoin ETFs are coming And what BlackRock’s Larry Fink secretly told Scaramucci about Bitcoin in 2021 👀 Sponsor: Bitwise James Seyffart, Research Analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence Alex Kruger, Founder of Asgard Noelle Acheson, Author of the “Crypto Is Macro Now” Newsletter  Anthony Scaramucci, Founder of SkyBridge US-Iran-Israel war Unchained: Bitcoin Dips Below $100K as U.S.–Iran Tensions Trigger $627M in Liquidations Polymarket: Will Iran close the Strait of Hormuz before July? WSJ: What Israel’s Soaring Markets Are Saying About the Iran War Macro WSJ: Fed’s Bowman Says She Could Support a July Interest-Rate Cut CNBC: Fed Governor Waller says central bank could cut rates as early as July FT: Jay Powell to push back on calls for Federal Reserve rate cuts as soon as July Stablecoins WSJ: Stablecoin World Opens Up to Main Street Banks The Block: Circle's post-IPO stock surge pushes market cap near Coinbase and USDC ETFs James upped the odds on a bunch of altcoin spot ETFs Timestamps: 🎬 0:00 Intro 🌍 2:51 Are there lessons in how the markets shrugged off the Iran-Israel conflict? 🔥 9:37 What flashpoints in the Middle East could ignite next 🛢️ 14:40 Will oil supplies remain safe? 💸 22:13 Are cracks finally forming in the Fed’s resistance to rate cuts? 📉 28:08 Why Anthony believes that Fed Chair Powell is playing politics with rates 🇺🇸 33:55 Whether TACO Trump or tough Trump will show up on tariff day 🎯 36:26 What Anthony says that people get wrong about Trump’s economic strategy 🏦 43:52 Why Circle’s IPO feels more meme than fintech and what Larry Fink once secretly told Anthony about bitcoin 👀 🚫 50:27 One thing that Anthony HATES about the GENIUS Act 📊 56:17 Why James is upping his odds on a wave of altcoin ETFs, but doesn’t expect many to be successful products Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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By Laura Shin

Crypto assets and blockchain technology are about to transform every trust-based interaction of our lives, from financial services to identity to the Internet of Things. In this podcast, host Laura Shin, an independent journalist covering all things crypto, talks with industry pioneers about how crypto assets and blockchains will change the way we earn, spend and invest our money. Tune in to find out how Web 3.0, the decentralized web, will revolutionize our world. Disclosure: I'm a nocoiner.