Is a Recession Coming? What 100+ Companies Are Telling Us | The Weekly Wrap
Is a Recession Coming? What 100+ Companies Are Telling Us | The Weekly Wrap
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Quick Insights

Investors should prioritize GE Vernova (GEV) as a high-conviction play on AI data center power demand, following an 85% increase in earnings and a 71% surge in orders. Within healthcare, UnitedHealthcare (UNH) is the preferred turnaround candidate due to its ability to reprice premiums, while Molina (MOH) should be avoided due to rising costs from a sicker Medicaid pool. Be cautious with Fair Isaac Corp (FICO) and Blackstone (BX), as FICO has lost its mortgage score monopoly and BX is seeing significant slowdowns and rising defaults in its private credit division. In the housing sector, Meritage Homes (MTH) offers a value opportunity as it trades below tangible book value while aggressively buying back shares. Avoid "buying the dip" in software stocks like ServiceNow (NOW) or IBM, as the sector faces structural risks from AI-driven workforce reductions that threaten traditional per-seat pricing models.

Detailed Analysis

Blackstone (BX)

• Blackstone reported a beat on distributable earnings ($1.36 vs $1.34 expected), but the stock moved lower due to weak performance metrics in its private credit and real estate divisions. • B-Cred (Blackstone’s $81B flagship private credit fund) saw a significant slowdown in inflows, dropping from a 2025 average of $1B per month to just $230M in April. • Non-accruals in the private credit portfolio increased to 1.4%, with specific write-downs noted for Medallia (marked at 60.3 cents) and Affordable Care (marked at 69.8 cents).

Takeaways

Monitor Private Credit Health: The flat performance and increasing non-accruals suggest the "golden era" of private credit may be facing headwinds from portfolio company stress. • Real Estate Caution: Negative returns in opportunistic real estate (-90 bps) indicate continued pressure in the property markets despite high overall assets under management.


Fair Isaac Corp (FICO)

• FICO has historically held a monopoly on the consumer lending score process, but the FHFA recently announced that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will now accept Vantage Score as an alternative. • This effectively ends FICO’s "Classic" score as the sole approved metric in the mortgage world. • Steve Eisman revealed he has been short FICO for several months.

Takeaways

Competitive Threat: The loss of monopoly status is a structural shift. The stock has already dropped over 40% this year, and the "bull case" that pricing grids would favor FICO has been proven wrong. • Sector Sentiment: This is a major disruption to a long-standing "moat" in the financial services industry.


Managed Care & Health Insurance (UNH, ELV, MOH)

• The industry appears to be turning a corner after a period of high medical costs. • UnitedHealthcare (UNH): Reported a strong beat ($7.23 EPS vs $6.57 expected). The "bull case" relies on its ability to reprice insurance premiums quickly to offset high medical loss ratios (MLR). • Elevance (ELV): Reported a beat, but it was driven by non-recurring investment income. 2026 estimates still suggest a 15% EPS decline. • Molina (MOH): Beat expectations but faces "Medicaid attrition." As the government prunes Medicaid rolls, the remaining pool of insured people is sicker, which could drive up future costs.

Takeaways

UNH as a Turnaround Play: Investors are rewarding UNH for signs of stabilization in its MLR, though issues remain in its Optum division due to new Medicare pricing systems. • Molina Risk: Be cautious with MOH; the sicker "cohort" of remaining Medicaid members poses a risk to 2026/2027 earnings.


GE Aerospace (GE) & GE Vernova (GEV)

GE Aerospace: Benefiting from a massive expansion in commercial aviation. Orders were up a staggering 87% ($23B). • GE Vernova (GEV): A play on the "AI Data Center" theme. Data centers require massive amounts of electricity, which drives demand for gas turbines. • GEV reported an 85% increase in EPS and a 71% increase in orders.

Takeaways

The AI Power Theme: GEV is positioned as a primary beneficiary of the U.S. electrical grid expansion. While the 2026 PE is high (80x), the "long tail" of the business provides multi-year earnings visibility. • Industrial Strength: Unlike software, the industrial sector (specifically aerospace and power) shows robust, tangible growth in orders.


Software Sector (NOW, IBM)

• Sentiment in software is described as "precarious." • ServiceNow (NOW): Despite 22% revenue growth, the stock dropped 13% after hours because of a small (75 bps) headwind in the Middle East. • IBM: Software revenue was "in line," but the market sold off the stock because it wasn't a significant beat.

Takeaways

Avoid "Bottom Fishing": Eisman warns against trying to buy the dip in software right now. The market is unforgiving of even minor misses. • AI Structural Risks: There is a growing concern that AI will lead to "seat contraction" (fewer employees needed, thus fewer software licenses sold), which threatens the traditional per-seat pricing model.


Homebuilders (DHI, MTH, PHM)

• Higher interest rates (driven by inflation and oil prices) have crimped the spring selling season. • Meritage Homes (MTH): Trading below its tangible book value ($75). • DR Horton (DHI) & Pulte (PHM): Results were "less bad" than feared, leading to a relief rally.

Takeaways

Value in Homebuilders: The sector is unloved due to high rates, but companies like MTH are aggressively buying back shares and trading at attractive valuations relative to their assets.


Tesla (TSLA)

• The stock is currently split between "fundamental" bears (focusing on the auto business) and "visionary" bulls (focusing on autonomous vehicles and robots). • Tesla's 2026 PE is over 200x.

Takeaways

High Risk/Reward: The stock is driven by Elon Musk’s promises of future tech rather than current car sales. Increased CapEx ($25B+) on AI and robots is a point of contention for investors concerned about cash flow.


Investment Themes & Macro Insights

The "Recession" Question

• Based on earnings from over 100 companies and credit data from large banks, Eisman concludes there is no evidence of a looming recession. The economy remains generally healthy.

The U.S. Deficit Risk

• Addressing concerns about a collapse in the Treasury market, Eisman remains skeptical of "alarmists." He notes that Japan’s debt-to-GDP is double that of the U.S. and their markets function well. As long as there is no liquid alternative to the U.S. Treasury, the "calamity" is unlikely to occur.

AI's Impact on Software

Incumbents vs. Newcomers: Large software companies will likely survive, but their ability to raise prices and grow "seats" is under threat. • Sales Costs: AI reduces coding costs (R&D), but it does not reduce the cost of sales and marketing, which is the largest expense for most SaaS companies. This protects incumbents from being easily displaced by "one-man" AI startups.

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Episode Description
On this episode of The Weekly Wrap, Steve Eisman digs into one of the biggest earnings weeks of the year, covering over a hundred companies across industrials, software, healthcare, and homebuilders to answer the question everyone is asking: is a recession on the horizon? He also flags a major development in private credit, covers the battered health insurance sector, and shares why FICO's decades-long monopoly may finally be coming to an end. He also responds to two questions from viewers. Sign up for our mailing list here! https://realeismanplaybook.com/ 00:00 - Intro 01:57 - War in Iran Remains Opaque 02:25 - Private Credit Updates 03:30 - Airlines 03:55 - A Huge Week in Earnings 04:35 - Blackstone 05:58 - FICO 07:24 - Health Insurance 11:39 - Industrials 16:52 - Software 18:55 - Homebuilders 21:03 - Mailbag: A Government Debt Crisis 24:38 - Mailbag: The Recent AI/Software Selloff 29:55 - Outro Watch my Financial Literacy Masterclass video here: https://youtu.be/u8chA7LC8lU Watch my Masterclass on the 2008 Financial Crisis here: https://youtu.be/4bSCdJTbR8I Subscribe 👉🏻https://www.youtube.com/@RealEismanPlaybook?sub_confirmation=1 Connect with Steve Eisman and access all things The Eisman Playbook: 🌐 https://linktr.ee/realeismanplaybook → Follow on socials, watch episodes, and get the latest updates — all in one place. Disclaimer: The financial opinions expressed are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on this content. Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in ‘The Eisman Playbook' carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money you can afford to lose. Derivatives are unsuitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell, or retain any specific investment or service. Copyright ©2025 Steve Eisman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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