“You’re Getting Scammed!” Joshua Weissman Reveals How Restaurants REALLY Make Money
“You’re Getting Scammed!” Joshua Weissman Reveals How Restaurants REALLY Make Money
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Quick Insights
  • Consider a broad S&P 500 index fund as a long-term core holding; the discussion favors a hands-off approach but gives no specific fund or allocation.
  • If seeking broader diversification, consider adding international and emerging-market index funds, while choosing allocations that fit your risk tolerance.
  • Compare municipal bonds with other income investments after accounting for taxes, yield, and effort; no specific bond or yield was provided.
  • Treat Bitcoin/IBIT as volatile, and consult a qualified tax professional before attempting tax-loss harvesting; the discussion offers no current price target.
  • No actionable buy or sell recommendation was provided for NVDA, restaurant stocks, or options strategies.
Detailed Analysis

Nvidia (NVDA)

  • Joshua said he invested a “pretty big chunk” when Nvidia fell to $78. The hosts estimated the position was up about 5x, and Joshua agreed.
  • This was a description of a past investment, not a current price target or recommendation.

Takeaways

  • Joshua’s example illustrates the potential gains—and timing risk—of buying an individual stock after a sharp decline. The transcript does not provide a valuation analysis or a current view on Nvidia.

S&P 500

  • Joshua called the S&P 500 the best investment he had made and said it had performed well for him.
  • He described himself as a long-term investor who generally avoids day trading and prefers investments he can leave alone.

Takeaways

  • The discussion supports considering broad-market exposure as a long-term core holding, rather than relying entirely on active income or individual-stock bets. No specific fund or allocation was recommended.

Bitcoin (BTC) and iShares Bitcoin Trust (IBIT)

  • Joshua said he had lost money on Bitcoin, but was still holding some of his position. He gave a cost basis of about $90 in the conversation, apparently referring to the price level, but the unit and exact purchase details are unclear.
  • Jack said he sold his Bitcoin exposure—held through IBIT, the iShares Bitcoin Trust—around $65–$70 and realized a loss. He said he still had a smaller amount of Bitcoin.
  • Graham jokingly called Jack’s sale bullish after Bitcoin rose that day. This was banter, not a substantiated price outlook.
  • The hosts discussed selling Bitcoin at a loss and buying it back to potentially use the realized loss against capital gains. They noted that tax treatment depends on the asset and transaction details.

Takeaways

  • The speakers’ experiences show that Bitcoin exposure can involve substantial price swings and realized losses; their positions and outcomes differed.
  • Tax-loss harvesting may be worth discussing with a qualified tax professional. Do not assume that selling and immediately repurchasing an asset will qualify for a tax deduction in every situation.

Municipal Bonds

  • Graham said he sold Los Angeles real estate and compared the property’s return with that of a tax-free municipal bond. He said the bond’s return was higher for him and required less effort than owning the property.
  • He said he reinvested some proceeds in the bond and put other amounts into international, emerging-market, and S&P 500 index funds. No bond, yield, or maturity was named.

Takeaways

  • The comparison highlights that an investment’s return should be weighed against its tax treatment and the time and effort it requires. The transcript does not establish that municipal bonds will outperform real estate generally.

International and Emerging-Market Index Funds

  • Graham said he used part of the proceeds from a property sale to buy an international index fund and an emerging-market index fund, alongside some S&P 500 exposure.

Takeaways

  • These funds were presented as parts of Graham’s own portfolio, not as specific recommendations. The discussion suggests broadening exposure beyond U.S. stocks, but gives no fund names, allocation targets, or return expectations.

Selling Options

  • Jack said he put $100,000 into an account and sold options, using the results to buy a watch.
  • Graham cautioned that Jack’s outcome benefited from a rising market: stocks could instead fall sharply, leaving option income insufficient to offset losses on the underlying holdings.

Takeaways

  • The anecdote is not evidence that selling options is a low-risk way to generate income. The speakers specifically highlighted the possibility that market losses could outweigh option premiums.

Restaurant Ownership and Hospitality

  • Joshua described opening a restaurant focused on affordable fried-chicken sandwiches. He said he had invested more than a quarter-million dollars in the buildout and did not have an outside investor.
  • He said the concept depends on selling enough volume to make competitive prices and premium ingredients work. He hoped the business could make seven figures if it performed well, but stressed that this was uncertain and that a pro forma is only a projection.
  • He said he planned to reinvest any early profits into the business rather than take money out immediately. He was open to considering more locations, but said he was not comfortable franchising.
  • Joshua described restaurant ownership as risky: costs can be high, margins are thin, failure rates are high, and a business without investors may leave the owner responsible for unexpected costs.
  • The discussion cited Joe’s Prime Seafood and Steak as an example of a restaurant reportedly generating $47 million in annual revenue at one location. The hosts’ discussion of a possible sale at a 3x multiplier was hypothetical; they did not know the restaurant’s profit or verify its financials.
  • Revenue and margin figures mentioned for Terry Black’s Barbecue were explicitly hearsay. Joshua said he had not seen the books and could not confirm them.
  • Domino’s (DPZ) was used as an example of a restaurant brand that has lasted and made its product easy to access. The conversation did not analyze Domino’s stock or recommend it.

Takeaways

  • The discussion portrays restaurant ownership as a high-effort, high-risk operating business, not a passive investment. Location, food quality, staffing, costs, consistency, and customer volume all matter.
  • Treat the revenue and margin figures discussed as unverified examples, not as reliable financial benchmarks for valuing a restaurant.
  • Joshua’s plan to prioritize quality and reinvestment over near-term withdrawals is specific to his business; the transcript does not establish that the restaurant will be profitable.

Other Restaurant Companies Mentioned

  • Chipotle (CMG) came up in a discussion about portion sizes and whether customers consistently receive the advertised amount of meat. No investment view on Chipotle was given.
  • Wendy’s (WEN), Burger King, and Popeyes were mentioned in comparisons of chicken sandwiches. Burger King and Popeyes are part of Restaurant Brands International (QSR); the conversation did not discuss the company’s financials or stock.
  • In-N-Out was discussed in relation to sourcing and possible restaurant margins, but no financial figures were established. It is not publicly traded.

Takeaways

  • These names were discussed as restaurant examples, not as stock picks. The transcript provides no valuation, price targets, or buy/sell recommendations for these companies.

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The Iced Coffee Hour

By Graham Stephan/Jack Selby

"The Iced Coffee Hour" is a podcast hosted by Graham Stephan and Jack Selby that explores candid conversations with a diverse collection of guests, delving into their unique life journeys, successes, finances, and insights.