Warsh Out in Bonds +  CME Group's Tim McCourt on Single Stock Futures
Warsh Out in Bonds + CME Group's Tim McCourt on Single Stock Futures
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Capitalize on extreme sector pessimism by buying the IGV software ETF in the low 90s, targeting an upside of 115. Use strong recent earnings from MSFT as bullish momentum, but carefully evaluate broader sector breadth before buying individual mega-cap tech stocks. Establish positions in Gold and the GDX mining ETF to capitalize on a favorable risk-reward setup driven by heavy central bank buying and a technical breakout above a six-month downtrend. Take advantage of a technical reversal in Chinese equities by investing in the KWEB internet ETF near the 28 level as it targets its 200-day moving average near 32. Alternatively, consider the FXI ETF for broader exposure to Chinese markets following their recent breakout from a multi-month downtrend.

Detailed Analysis

Microsoft Corporation (MSFT)

  • Stock saw a significant 15% post-earnings rally.
  • Identified as the second-largest holding in the IGV software ETF at 8.3%.
  • Strong quarterly results are seen as providing bullish momentum for the broader market.

Takeaways

  • Strong earnings can serve as a near-term catalyst for individual tech names, though investors should evaluate underlying sector breadth rather than relying solely on mega-cap performance.

Software ETF (IGV)

  • Experienced a decoupling where top holdings like Microsoft surged 15% while other holdings like Palo Alto rose only 2%, leaving the ETF essentially unchanged.
  • Pessimism in the software sector recently reached extremes comparable to over-enthusiasm seen last fall.
  • The ETF trades in the low 90s, with a projected upside target of approximately 115.

Takeaways

  • Current high pessimism levels in software create a potential contrarian opportunity for patient investors.
  • Investors should monitor underlying index construction, as a few mega-cap stocks can heavily distort the performance of sector ETFs.

Gold (GC)

  • Continues to hold the key 4,000 price level.
  • The 200-day moving average sits around 4,500 and is currently flattening out.
  • Central bank buying and extreme market pessimism are viewed as strong tailwinds.
  • The GDX mining ETF is approaching a breakout above a downtrend that has lasted six to seven months.

Takeaways

  • Consider exposure to gold and gold miners (GDX) as a hedge against geopolitical volatility and currency fluctuations.
  • Negative sentiment around gold combined with continued central bank accumulation presents a favorable risk-reward setup for another leg higher.

China Internet ETF (KWEB)

  • Recently broke out above a downtrend that has been in place since early October.
  • Trades around the 28 level, with the 200-day moving average sitting near 32.
  • Chinese tech companies are innovating efficiently with lower-cost capital and models (such as DeepSeek and Huawei chips), closing the performance gap with U.S. competitors.

Takeaways

  • For broader exposure to Chinese equities, the FXI ETF is highlighted as an alternative to the internet-focused KWEB.
  • A technical reversal from bearish to bullish momentum makes Chinese tech an interesting contrarian play after four years of flatlining performance.
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Apex Fintech Solutions provides the tools and services that enable hundreds of clients to launch, scale, and support digital investing for tens of millions of end investors. The company provides essential infrastructure and a comprehensive ecosystem of cloud-based products to enable and streamline trading, wealth management, cost basis, tax reporting, and, through its subsidiary Apex Clearing™, custody and clearing LEARN MORE: https://apexfintechsolutions.com/?utm_source=Risk+Reversal&utm_medium=Podcast&utm_campaign=701PJ00000fnXhaYAE On today's show, Dan Nathan and Guy Adami break down a wild Thursday in the markets: Microsoft up 15% and Meta down 9% post-earnings, a huge bounce in semis and memory names, and software getting crushed. Guy makes the case that this price action looks more like a topping formation than a bottom. They dig into Fed Chair Kevin Warsh's post-meeting commentary and the bond market selloff it triggered, Bank of Japan intervention on the yen (and what it could mean for volatility), the dollar's potential breakout, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley's pullback from all-time highs, China's AI and chip progress and what it means for KWEB, and where gold goes next after holding the $4,000 level. Plus, Dan sits down with Tim McCourt, Senior Managing Director and Global Head of Equity, FX and Alternative Products at CME Group, to talk about the newly launched Single Stock Futures — how they work, why CME launched them now during earnings season, and how traders can use them alongside stocks, ETFs, and options for risk management. Show Notes AI Lowers Wages But Doesn't Cut Jobs (Apollo) Why the bond market is doubting Fed chairman Warsh (Axios) FactSet Insight (FactSet) —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media The financial opinions expressed in Risk Reversal content are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on Risk Reversal. Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose. Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.
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