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Raoul Pal and Andreas Steno dive deep into the new macro regime — where liquidity, policy, and technology intersect to drive the next great investment cycle. They unpack how private credit creation, AI-driven CapEx, energy transitions, and the “debasement trade” across gold, crypto, and equities will reshape global markets in 2026 and beyond. Recorded on October 3, 2025.
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Timestamps:
0:00 – Sponsors
2:01 – Intro
3:30 – Business Cycle and Macro Analysis
7:59 – Liquidity and Credit Creation in the Economy
12:33 – Global Yield Curve Dynamics and Bank Lending
15:13 – Central Bank Strategy and Messaging
17:03 – Gold, Bitcoin, and the Debasement Trade
19:42 – Employment Trends and Capex Cycle Outlook
20:00 – Tariffs, Capex Cycles & US Manufacturing Policy
22:04 – US Debt Strategy & AI as Economic Solution
23:03 – Macro Investing: The Greatest Risk-Taking Opportunity
23:29 – Japan’s Interest Rates & Global Impact
26:01 – France, Politics, and European Market Stagnation
27:21 – European Defense Spending & NATO Commitments
30:14 – European Liquidity & Bank Revival
32:06 – Private Sector Credit Creation as Global Policy
33:46 – Global Equity Markets: Return of Non-US Opportunities
35:28 – Strong Bank Balance Sheets Enable New Credit Cycle
36:48 – Low Rates & Steep Yield Curves to Attract Foreign Investment
40:00 – Central Bank Independence & Political Influence
41:12 – Macro Trades & Liquidity-Driven Investing
42:03 – The AI Trade: Beyond Big Tech
43:04 – The Energy Trade as the Next AI Play
44:11 – The Urgency of Energy Infrastructure for AI
45:33 – Intelligence per Unit of Energy: The New Arms Race
46:18 – Why Oil & Nuclear Won’t Scale Fast Enough
47:02 – U.S. Solar Market is Still Undervalued
47:52 – NextTracker & Solar Yield Optimization
48:37 – Macro Investors Turning to Equities
49:13 – Thematic Investing vs Traditional Macro Trades
50:00 – Mega Macro Trends: AI, Crypto, Energy, and Defense
52:03 – Bubble Dynamics & Right-Tail Opportunities
53:10 – Crypto Legislation & the Genius Act's Impact on Ethereum
54:42 – Q4 Market Outlook & Repeating 2024 Patterns
56:03 – Extended Market Cycle & Delayed Capex Boom
57:46 – Tech Arms Race: AI, Geopolitics, and the Biggest Trade Ever
59:18 – AI Adoption & Personal Anecdote on Medical Use Case
1:00:20 – Wrap-Up & Reflections on Andreas’ Investing Style
1:01:25 – Outro
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