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⚪ Raoul Pal welcomes Emad Mostaque, co-founder of Stability AI and author of "The Last Economy," back to explore how AI is triggering the Economic Singularity. They discuss the potential for a deflationary shock, the rise of digital assets, and the collapse of traditional economic models as humanity transitions from a scarcity-based system to one driven by abundance and machine intelligence. Recorded on October 13, 2025
⚪ X: @EMostaque
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Timestamps:
00:00 – Sponsors
02:10 – The Exponential Age & Emad’s New Work
05:04 – Intelligence Inversion & Economics Redefined
07:00 – Generative AI as the Foundation of the Economy
08:00 – Four Types of Capital
10:00 – AI as an Economic Actor & Cognitive Takeover
14:00 – Collapse in Cost of Intelligence & Economic Singularity
19:00 – AI vs. Human Labor & Automation
22:00 – Small, Efficient Models & Localized AI
26:10 – Humans, Organizations, and Economies as AIs
28:00 – AI Outperforms Humans in Medicine & “Good Enough” Models
30:00 – AI Cost, Productivity, and Data Efficiency
36:36 – AI, Labor, Identity & Human Value in an Abundant Economy
40:27 – AI Alignment, RL, and Organizational Impact
42:18 – AI in Financial Markets & Scientific Discovery
52:03 – AI Replacing Jobs & Rethinking Value
59:04 – Full-Stack AI Initiatives & Preparing for the Singularity
1:06:10 – Agents, Simulation Reality, & Compute as Consciousness
1:08:03 – Objective Functions, Human Purpose & Survival
1:13:08 – AI Bias, Rigidity, and Geopolitical Impact
1:17:19 – AI Companions, Neural Interfaces & Physical Manifestations
1:20:29 – Investing, Retail Adoption, & the Coming Super Bubble
1:23:27 – Closing Reflections & Prepare for the Singularity
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