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⚪ Jordi Visser, founder and chief strategist at Visser Labs, joins Raoul Pal to dive deep into the collision of AI, macroeconomics, and markets — exploring how exponential innovation is reshaping labor, inflation, and global growth. From the Fed’s pivot to the coming $5 trillion AI buildout, they reveal why energy, stablecoins, and humanoids could define the next decade of investing. Recorded on October 29, 2025.
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Sponsors
01:55 - From Liquidity to AI: The New Economic Engine
04:02 - Liquidity Talks: Macro and Market Cycles
06:48 - Crypto Market Maturity and Institutional Flows
10:30 - Venture Capital, Speculation, and Crypto Cycles
14:45 - AI, Data, and the Exponential Shift
18:35 - The Future of Work and Productivity Gains
20:00 - AI Winners: Nvidia, Tesla, and the Rest of the Mag 7
23:16 - Selling Pressure from Asia and Market Flows
26:10 - Humanoids, Abundance, and the Future of Labor
30:13 - Skepticism, Retail Momentum, and Bubble Psychology
33:26 - The Urgency of Energy: Powering the AI Age
37:03 - Bitcoin Miners and Energy Grid Optimization
40:01 - The Global Race for Energy
42:47 - Tesla Robo Taxis and the Onset of Real Humanoids
45:38 - Brains in Devices: The Next Phase of AI
48:51 - Machine IQ and the End of Human Efficiency
52:02 - The Rise of Stablecoins and the Digital Casino Analogy
55:20 - Stablecoins and the New Global Bank Run Risk
58:04 - The U.S. Dollar as the World’s Digital Capital Layer
1:00:25 - AI, AGI, and the Democratization of Wealth
1:02:47 - Model Interoperability and Shared Learning Across AI
1:05:27 - Smarter Than Humans, But Not Yet Physical
1:07:27 - Market Outlook: Bullish Macro Setup
1:09:27 - Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up with Jordi and Raoul
1:10:22 - Outro: Subscribe and Join for Deeper Insights
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