ABC Pulls Jimmy Kimmel, Pam Bondi’s Free Speech Mess, and Trump Sues The New York Times
ABC Pulls Jimmy Kimmel, Pam Bondi’s Free Speech Mess, and Trump Sues The New York Times
232 days agoPivotNew York Magazine
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Quick Insights

A wave of Mergers & Acquisitions (M&A) is expected over the next two quarters, with potential targets including media companies like Warner Bros. Discovery (WBD), Comcast (CMCSA), and The Walt Disney Company (DIS). The Walt Disney Company (DIS) is highlighted as a particularly attractive acquisition target for a large tech company, which could provide a significant premium for shareholders. In the semiconductor sector, NVIDIA's investment in Intel (INTC) is seen as a major validation for the latter, causing its stock to jump significantly. However, investors should be cautious with NVIDIA (NVDA) due to major geopolitical risk, as China has instructed its companies to stop buying its chips. Consider avoiding vulnerable traditional media stocks like Paramount (PARA) and Nexstar (NXST), as the industry shifts towards "fearless" digital platforms like The New York Times (NYT).

Detailed Analysis

NVIDIA (NVDA) & Intel (INTC)

  • NVIDIA is investing $5 billion in its competitor, Intel, for a stake worth about 4% of the company.
  • The deal involves collaboration on developing chips for personal computers and data centers.
  • Following the news, Intel stock jumped over 25% in pre-market trading.
  • The hosts question the nature of the deal, suggesting it feels like industrial policy (government-like intervention) rather than pure capitalism.
    • There's concern that a competitor (NVIDIA) owning a stake in Intel could stifle innovation and true competition within Intel.
  • Major Risk Factor: A significant headwind for NVIDIA was mentioned: China's internet watchdog has instructed Chinese companies to terminate orders for NVIDIA chips, as China is developing its own.

Takeaways

  • The partnership is a significant strategic move in the semiconductor industry, aiming to strengthen U.S. chip manufacturing capabilities, but it raises questions about market competition.
  • Investors reacted very positively to the deal for Intel, seeing it as a potential lifeline or validation for the company, which was described as a "shadow of itself."
  • For NVIDIA, while the investment is relatively small for them, the news out of China represents a major geopolitical risk to one of its largest markets. Investors should monitor how the loss of Chinese business could impact future revenue.

The Walt Disney Company (DIS)

  • The discussion centers on Disney CEO Bob Iger's decision to pull "Jimmy Kimmel Live" off the air indefinitely following political pressure from the Trump administration and conservative-owned affiliate station groups like Nexstar and Sinclair.
  • The hosts describe Iger's move as "appeasement" and a "terrible footnote on his legacy," suggesting he is prioritizing getting the stock price up or selling the company over defending free speech.
  • The business case for dropping Kimmel is mentioned: late-night TV viewership is declining, especially in the key 18-49 demographic, where Kimmel's viewership is down two-thirds since 2015.
  • It is suggested that Bob Iger may be looking to sell the company, potentially to Apple.
  • Scott Galloway makes a prediction that Disney is a prime M&A target because it is "flailing" and a larger tech company could acquire it for what amounts to a small percentage of their market cap.

Takeaways

  • Disney is facing significant political pressure that is directly impacting its programming and business decisions, which could be a risk factor for investors concerned about management's ability to navigate a polarized environment.
  • The fundamentals of traditional television, including late-night shows, are weak and in decline. This is a long-term headwind for Disney's broadcast and cable assets.
  • The company is viewed as a potential acquisition target. An acquisition by a company like Apple could provide a significant premium for current shareholders, but this remains speculative.

ByteDance (TikTok)

  • The U.S. operations of TikTok are set to be spun off into a new company, with an investor group including Oracle (ORCL), Silverlake, and Andreessen Horowitz expected to own about 80%.
  • The hosts heavily criticized the deal as "cronyism," pointing out that the buyers are political allies and donors of the Trump administration.
  • A key concern is that the deal does not solve the underlying national security threat, as the Chinese parent company, ByteDance, may still control the powerful algorithm that determines what users see.
  • Economically, ByteDance is described as an "unbelievable company" with high operating margins and fast growth, but it trades at a low valuation (two times revenue) because of the geopolitical risk.

Takeaways

  • The forced sale of TikTok is fraught with political risk and uncertainty. The structure of the deal is being criticized as politically motivated rather than being based on sound policy.
  • If the deal goes through, the investors are positioned to make "tens of billions of dollars" by acquiring a highly profitable asset at a depressed valuation.
  • The core issue of who controls the algorithm remains unresolved. If China retains control, the national security concerns that prompted the sale will persist, creating continued uncertainty for the new company.

Investment Theme: Mergers & Acquisitions (M&A)

  • A specific prediction was made that the next two quarters will be "historically good" for M&A activity.
  • The reasoning is that large, "fully valued" (or overvalued) tech companies have inflated stock prices, which they can use as a powerful currency to buy cheaper, undervalued companies.
  • The current political environment is seen as having a "total absence" of antitrust scrutiny, which will embolden companies to make large acquisition bids they wouldn't have attempted before.
  • Potential acquisition targets mentioned in the media and entertainment space include:
    • Warner Bros. Discovery (WBD)
    • Comcast (CMCSA)
    • The Walt Disney Company (DIS)

Takeaways

  • Investors should watch for a potential wave of M&A, particularly with large tech companies buying assets in other sectors like media.
  • Companies like WBD, CMCSA, and DIS could be targets, which would likely result in a significant stock price increase for the company being acquired.
  • This trend is driven by a unique combination of high valuations for acquirers and a perceived lack of regulatory hurdles, creating a favorable environment for deal-making.

Investment Theme: Traditional vs. New Media

  • A major theme was the decline and vulnerability of traditional broadcast media companies like Paramount (CBS), Comcast (NBC), and station owners like Nexstar (NXST) and Sinclair (SBGI).
  • These companies are described as "dying businesses" with aging audiences and are highly susceptible to political pressure that can affect their business operations, as seen with the Jimmy Kimmel situation.
  • In contrast, "fearless" new media outlets that are not controlled by government licenses, such as podcasts, YouTube channels, and subscription-based news like The New York Times (NYT), are expected to benefit and gain audience share.

Takeaways

  • Investing in traditional broadcast and cable companies carries significant risk due to both declining viewership and heightened political interference.
  • The future of media may lie with digital-native, direct-to-consumer platforms that are more insulated from the types of regulatory pressure being applied to broadcasters.
  • Companies that can build a "fearless" brand and a direct relationship with their audience are better positioned for long-term growth.
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Episode Description
Kara and Scott discuss ABC pulling “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” for a joke about the Charlie Kirk shooting, Trump filing a defamation suit against the New York Times, and Pam Bondi attempting to clean up her “hate speech” mess. Plus, FBI Director Kash Patel’s heated testimony before the House Judiciary Committee, Nvidia's $5 billion investment in Intel, and President Trump's fourth extension of the TikTok ban deadline. Watch this episode on the ⁠⁠Pivot YouTube channel⁠⁠. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcastofficial⁠⁠. Follow us on Bluesky at ⁠⁠@pivotpod.bsky.social⁠⁠. Follow us on TikTok at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcast⁠⁠. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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