The mates sit down with Richard Socher to discuss Recursive’s $670M bet on self-improving AI, why he puts P(Doom) at zero, the race toward ASI, proposed restrictions on recursive self-improvement, and what new AI benchmarks like Tavus’ Turing Test could tell us about what comes next.
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Peter H. Diamandis, MD, is the Founder of XPRIZE, Singularity University, ZeroG, and A360
Salim Ismail is the founder of Open ExO, a GP at Exponential Venture Capital/The Organizational Singularity Fund and a sought after global speaker and thought leader.
Dave Blundin is the founder & GP of Link Ventures
Dr. Alexander Wissner-Gross is a computer scientist and founder of Reified
Richard Socher is a leading AI researcher and entrepreneur, founder and CEO of You.com and co-founder and CEO of Recursive, who previously served as Chief Scientist at Salesforce after founding MetaMind. you.com
Read Richard Socher’s new book, The Eureka Machine: Why AI Is the Key to Unlocking a New Era of Scientific Discoveries: https://www.eurekamachine.org/
Chapters
00:00 Recursive Self-Improvement, ASI & What’s Ahead
04:48 The Eureka Machine & AI-Driven Scientific Discovery
23:22 AI Decodes the Brain & the Future of BCIs
39:05 Gene Editing, Mosquitoes & Engineering Biology
47:14 Tavus, the Turing Test & AI Avatars
01:00:15 Recursive Self-Improvement & the Road to ASI
01:17:07 Washington Moves to Ban Recursive AI
01:35:31 Gemini 4 Argon & the Frontier Model Race
01:43:38 Sonnet 5.5 Hits 70% on Terminal Bench
01:48:01 The Compute Crunch & Cheaper Intelligence
02:01:41 Project Meridian, Elon & the Future of Warfare
02:08:56 AMA: AI, Jobs, Productivity & the Attention Economy
02:23:30 Closing Thoughts & The Eureka Machine
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*Recorded on October 2nd, 2026
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