The mates sit down with Ramez Naam to discuss the state of energy, the grid’s struggle to keep pace with AI, breakthroughs in sodium batteries and fusion, and whether wave-powered data centers could unlock a new era of energy abundance. Get access to metatrends 10+ years before anyone else - https://qr.diamandis.com/metatrends Peter H. Diamandis, MD, is the Founder of XPRIZE, Singularity University, ZeroG, and A360 Salim Ismail is the founder of Open ExO, a GP at Exponential Venture Capital/The Organizational Singularity Fund and a sought after global speaker and thought leader. Dave Blundin is the founder & GP of Link Ventures Dr. Alexander Wissner-Gross is a computer scientist and founder of Reified Ramez Naam is a computer scientist, clean energy futurist, award-winning author, and founder and managing partner of Planetary VC. A former Microsoft executive, he now invests in climate and energy startups and is a leading voice on disruptive technologies shaping the future of energy. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the energy landscape and technological potential 02:20 Guest introduction: Remez and his work on energy futures 04:55 AI's power hunger and the need for grid expansion 08:51 Log-linear relationship between compute and AI progress 15:05 Moving data centers to where energy is abundant 17:55 The potential of large-scale solar projects and their costs 20:50 The role of nuclear fission and fusion in future energy 33:54 The analogy of cache and multitasking in energy management 39:53 The scale of current and future solar installations 44:58 The economics of GPUs, AI, and energy costs 50:07 Long-term prospects for solar, nuclear, and space-based energy – My companies: Apply to Dave's and my new fund: https://qr.diamandis.com/linkventureslanding Get the blueprint for generative media https://goo.gle/startupgenmedia Go to Blitzy to book a free demo and start building today: https://qr.diamandis.com/blitzy Your body is incredibly good at hiding disease. Schedule a call with Fountain Life to add healthy decades to your life, and to learn more about their Memberships: https://www.fountainlife.com/peter _ Connect with Peter: X: https://qr.diamandis.com/twitter Instagram: https://qr.diamandis.com/instagram Substack: https://substack.com/@peterdiamandis Website: https://www.diamandis.com/ Xprize: http://www.xprize.org A360: https://www.abundance360.com/ Connect with Dave Web: https://db2.ai X: https://x.com/DaveBlundin?s=20 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dave-blundin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dave.blundin TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@daveblundin Connect with Salim: Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/salimismail/ X: https://x.com/salimismail Join Salim’s 10x Shift: https://openexo.com/10x-shift?channel=moonshots Subscribe to Salim’s channel: https://www.youtube.com/@SalimIsmail Exponential Venture Capital: https://organizationalsingularity.fund Connect with Alex Web: https://www.alexwg.org LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexwg/ X: https://x.com/alexwg Email: alexwg@alexwg.org Substack: https://theinnermostloop.substack.com/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1thtZk5vHTXbtDHezPT7tl Threads: https://www.threads.com/@alexwissnergross Connect with Ramez Ramez's Investment Firm, PlanetaryVC: https://planetary.vc Ramez's website: https://rameznaam.com Ramez on X: https://x.com/ramez Listen to MOONSHOTS: Apple: https://qr.diamandis.com/applepodcast Spotify: https://qr.diamandis.com/spotifypodcast Follow MOONSHOTS: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/launchmoonshots/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@launchmoonshots X: https://x.com/launchmoonshots Threads: https://www.threads.com/@launchmoonshots – *Recorded on August 4th, 2026 *The views expressed by me and all guests are personal opinions and do not constitute Financial, Medical, or Legal advice.