Brad Setser on the War in Iran and the Future of the US Dollar
Brad Setser on the War in Iran and the Future of the US Dollar
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Investors should prioritize non-Gulf oil producers like Norway and Canada to capture energy windfalls while avoiding the geopolitical risks and export bottlenecks of the Middle East. Ignore "de-dollarization" narratives and remain Long USD, as global capital continues to shift from bonds into high-performing U.S. Equities and tech stocks. While Samsung and TSMC are high-conviction plays for the AI boom, be aware that their domestic economies face significant headwinds from high energy import costs. Monitor Saudi Arabia as it shifts from a global lender to a major borrower, potentially creating opportunities in international debt markets as they fund massive domestic projects. For long-term growth, look toward European Defense manufacturers as the region aggressively scales missile production to achieve strategic autonomy from U.S. supply chains.

Detailed Analysis

Crude Oil (WTI/BRENT)

The discussion centers on the current oil shock triggered by Middle East tensions, comparing it to the 1970s. While physical interruptions are significant (10–15% of global supply), the price reaction has been more muted than historical precedents.

  • Market Disconnect: There is a gap between physical traders seeing a massive shock and the futures market, which remains relatively calm. This is attributed to oil's "near-perfect" fungibility, though shipping costs and refinery configurations (sweet vs. sour crude) create friction.
  • Supply Dynamics: The global market was very well-supplied prior to recent escalations. If choke points like the Strait of Hormuz remain open or "tolls" are paid, the market expects a return to $60/barrel. If interruptions persist, $150/barrel is possible.
  • The "New" Petro-Powers: Unlike the 70s, the big winners of high prices aren't just the Gulf states (who face export bottlenecks). The beneficiaries are:
    • North America: The U.S. and Canada (Alberta) produce over 25 million barrels a day.
    • Secondary Exporters: Norway, Kazakhstan, Guyana, and Brazil.

Takeaways

  • Monitor the "Kinkers": Look for investment opportunities in non-Gulf oil producers like Norway and Kazakhstan, which are capturing windfalls without the same geopolitical export risks as the Middle East.
  • Refinery Mismatch: Investors should note that not all oil is equal; a shortage of "medium sour" crude from the Gulf cannot be instantly replaced by "light sweet" crude from the U.S. without refinery retooling.

The U.S. Dollar (USD)

Despite widespread "de-dollarization" narratives, the dollar remains dominant due to high U.S. interest rates and the outperformance of U.S. equities.

  • Reserve vs. Return: Central bank reserves are only 57% USD (a historical low), but private investment portfolios (equities/private equity) are often 80%+ USD because they chase U.S. tech returns.
  • The "Hedge" Factor: In countries like Japan and Taiwan, investors are staying "long dollar" because hedging costs are too high. This creates a self-reinforcing cycle that keeps the dollar strong.
  • The China Paradox: China continues to hold massive dollar assets (often through state banks rather than formal reserves) because it must manage its currency to support its export-led economy.

Takeaways

  • Ignore "De-dollarization" Headlines: As long as the U.S. runs a trillion-dollar current account deficit, the world must buy a trillion dollars of U.S. assets. The shift is simply from Treasuries (bonds) to U.S. Equities.
  • Currency Strength: The dollar is likely to remain strong as long as global investors prioritize U.S. large-cap tech stocks over safer, lower-yielding international bonds.

South Korean & Taiwanese Markets

These East Asian economies are experiencing a unique "split" where high-tech exports (AI/Semiconductors) are booming while their currencies remain weak.

  • Samsung & Memory Chips: Samsung and other chipmakers are "printing money" due to the AI surge, yet the South Korean Won remains weak.
  • Retail Outflows: Interestingly, Korean retail investors are shunning domestic stocks in favor of U.S. tech stocks, further weakening the local currency.
  • Energy Risk: Both nations are "energy poor" and highly vulnerable to oil price spikes, which acts as a major headwind to their manufacturing sectors.

Takeaways

  • AI vs. Energy: While Samsung and TSMC benefit from the AI theme, their domestic economies are at risk if oil stays high.
  • Currency Plays: Watch for South Korea to potentially intervene or increase hedging to prevent the Won from devaluing too far against the Dollar.

Saudi Arabia & The Gulf States

A major shift is occurring in how "Petrodollars" are used. Saudi Arabia is moving from being a global lender to a global borrower.

  • Domestic Spending: Under MBS, Saudi Arabia is pouring billions into domestic "Giga-projects" (real estate, sports, entertainment).
  • Fiscal Breakeven: Saudi Arabia now needs oil at roughly $95–$100/barrel to balance its budget. Because oil has been lower, they have become a "drain" on the global eurodollar system, borrowing $100 billion last year.
  • Sovereign Wealth Shifts: Funds like the PIF (Saudi Arabia) and ADIA (Abu Dhabi) are moving away from conservative bond portfolios toward aggressive "home run" investments in private equity and global tech.

Takeaways

  • Saudi as a Borrower: Investors should view Saudi Arabia no longer as just a source of capital, but as a major player in the international debt markets.
  • Concentrated Wealth: Abu Dhabi and Qatar remain the "pure" winners with massive surpluses and small populations, making their sovereign wealth funds the most stable long-term global investors.

European Defense & Energy

Europe remains in a structurally difficult position, caught between high energy costs and a need to re-arm.

  • Missile Defense: With U.S. supplies constrained, Europe must rapidly scale its own defense production (missile interceptors).
  • The "China Shock": Europe is more vulnerable to the "China export boom" than the U.S., as it struggles to compete with cheap Chinese industrial goods while paying higher prices for American LNG (Liquefied Natural Gas).

Takeaways

  • Defense Sector: Long-term growth is expected in European defense manufacturing as the continent seeks "strategic autonomy" from U.S. supply chains.
  • Energy Transition: High oil/gas prices will continue to force Europe toward nuclear and renewables, though the transition period remains a drag on industrial growth.
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Episode Description
It's possible that the war in Iran could reshape financial flows in significant ways. Perhaps the Gulf states will end up as less desirable places to do business. Perhaps Iran will have a tollbooth at the Strait of Hormuz. Perhaps this episode will accelerate the world's shift away from oil. It's impossible to say. But given the uncertainty, fresh questions are being raised about the existing financial world order, upon the top of which the US dollar sits. On this episode, we speak once again with Brad Setser, the Whitney Shepardson senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations. We discuss how the war is already creating new global imbalances, and the degree to which this episode parallels past energy shocks. We also talk about broader trends in reserve management, other factors driving financial flows, and the unique situation facing East Asia, which is seeing a surge in its energy import bills at the same time its making making a fortune selling chips for the AI boom. Read more: US Probes Suspicious Oil Trades Made Before Trump Pivots China’s $51 Trillion Savings Help Bonds to Outperform During War Only http://Bloomberg.com subscribers can get the Odd Lots newsletter in their inbox each week, plus unlimited access to the site and app. Subscribe at  bloomberg.com/subscriptions/oddlots Subscribe to the Odd Lots Newsletter Join the conversation: discord.gg/oddlots See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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