Our Biggest Trade Ever (and what we're buying next)
Our Biggest Trade Ever (and what we're buying next)
291 days agoDumb Money LiveDumb Money
Podcast1 hr 18 min
Listen to Episode
Note: AI-generated summary based on third-party content. Not financial advice. Read more.
Quick Insights

Consider an investment in YETI Holdings (YETI) ahead of its August earnings, as the viral popularity of its Camino bag may create a "halo effect" driving broader brand growth. While the aggressive options trade is over, maintain a long-term position in NVIDIA (NVDA) stock to capitalize on the massive, multi-trillion dollar Sovereign AI trend. Investors should also explore the uranium sector, which is viewed as a straightforward bet on the growing geopolitical need for nuclear energy. Another major theme is rare earth minerals, driven by the strategic push for resource independence from China. For those with a high risk tolerance, consider dollar-cost averaging into CryptoPunks, which are seen as a blue-chip, long-term hold in the NFT market.

Detailed Analysis

NVIDIA (NVDA)

  • The hosts describe their trade in NVIDIA as their "biggest trade ever" on a single stock.
  • They have been extremely bullish for months, citing several key reasons:
    • Unlimited demand for GPUs: The core of their thesis is that the demand for NVIDIA's chips is insatiable.
    • Sovereign AI: They believe the trend of nations building their own AI infrastructure is a trillion-dollar tailwind that the market was not fully appreciating. They specifically mentioned Jensen Huang's (NVIDIA CEO) involvement in trips to Saudi Arabia as a clear signal.
    • Misunderstood Headwinds: They saw fears about insider selling and China chip export restrictions as "noise" that created an irrational buying opportunity. They believed a relaxation of chip export rules was inevitable as a negotiating tool for the U.S. to gain access to China's rare earth minerals.
  • Trading Strategy (Chris):
    • Chris used a highly aggressive strategy, investing 3% to 10% of his liquid portfolio into weekly NVIDIA call options.
    • When an options position achieved a 2x to 3x return, he would sell and roll about 50% of the proceeds into new options for the following week. He repeated this process 9 or 10 times.
    • On weeks when the options lost value, he would double or triple down on his position due to his high conviction in the thesis.
    • This strategy resulted in his total trading portfolio tripling (3x) since the start of the year.
  • Current Position:
    • Chris has sold all of his leveraged NVIDIA options. He states his specific, short-term thesis has played out.
    • He still holds a core equity position in NVIDIA stock, which makes up about 12.5% of his portfolio.

Takeaways

  • The hosts believe the primary bullish drivers for NVIDIA have been the massive, underestimated demand from sovereign nations building their own AI and the market's overreaction to negative headlines.
  • While the highly leveraged, short-term options trade is over for them, they maintain a long-term bullish view by holding the stock.
  • The discussion highlights different risk appetites: Chris's high-risk options strategy, Dave's more moderate stock purchases, and Jordan's conservative, smaller positions. This suggests investors can approach a high-conviction idea in a way that matches their own risk tolerance.

YETI Holdings (YETI)

  • This is the "new stock that we just bought." The investment is based on a "social arbitrage" thesis.
  • The Yeti Camino bag, a non-insulated tote bag, has gone viral on TikTok, becoming the "mom bag of the summer."
  • Google Trends data for the search term "Yeti bag" shows a massive, near-vertical spike after being flat for five years. This data was the primary catalyst for their trade.
  • A host visited a Yeti store and confirmed the bag is a huge seller, driving significant foot traffic and phone calls, with most colors sold out.
  • The Investment Thesis:
    • The viral bag itself may not be a huge "needle mover" for earnings in the current quarter (ending soon) due to inventory constraints.
    • However, the viral popularity is expected to have a "halo effect":
      • It brings millions of new eyeballs to the Yeti brand and website.
      • It drives foot traffic to physical stores (Yeti stores, Dick's Sporting Goods).
      • This increased traffic and brand awareness may lead to purchases of other Yeti products.
    • The underlying business story for Yeti is its international expansion into Europe and Asia and resolving supply chain issues to move 95% of its cup manufacturing out of China.
  • Action Taken: The hosts have bought both YETI stock and call options, with the options expiring after the next earnings report in August. They are hoping the company mentions the bag's popularity on the earnings call.

Takeaways

  • This is a classic "social arbitrage" play: using real-world observational data (TikTok trends, Google searches) to find a potential catalyst before it's fully priced in by Wall Street.
  • The bet is that the viral popularity of a single product can reignite interest in the entire brand, leading to broader sales growth and a positive revision of future earnings forecasts.
  • This is presented as a "fun trade" with a clear catalyst, but they acknowledge it's not a high-conviction, life-changing trade like NVIDIA. The risk is that the bag's popularity is a short-lived fad that doesn't translate into meaningful financial results.

Investment Themes & Other Opportunities

Deep Tech & Artificial Intelligence (AI)

  • The hosts believe we are in the very early stages of the AI revolution and that the market continues to underestimate how big the "intelligence industry" will be.
  • Key Challenge for Investors: Determining which "application layer" AI companies (like Figma) can survive and thrive as the underlying "foundation models" (from companies like OpenAI, Meta, Google) become more powerful and potentially offer competing features for free or cheap.
  • Strategy: They suggest owning a piece of every AI company you believe has durability and a defensible position, without overthinking the valuation, because the potential market is so large.
  • Microsoft (MSFT): They are teasing a "pretty darn big thesis" on Microsoft for a future episode. They did not reveal if it is bullish or bearish but said it's a major angle that retail investors are not discussing.

Rare Earths & Uranium

  • The hosts see a "mega, mega tailwind" for companies involved in rare earth minerals and uranium.
  • The thesis is driven by the geopolitical need for the U.S. and its allies to have resource independence from China and Russia.
  • Uranium: They believe owning uranium companies is a straightforward bet because the storyline of needing nuclear energy is "not going away."
  • Rare Earths: They are teasing a future episode about a specific, publicly-traded company that is not known as a rare earth company but has access to a "wild amount of rare earths." They explicitly stated this company is not MP Materials (MP) or Lithium Americas (LAC).

Cryptocurrencies & NFTs

  • Ethereum (ETH): The price has seen a significant, sharp run-up recently. One host (Jordan) sold his entire position the day before the rally began.
  • Bitcoin (BTC): Mentioned as a core holding.
  • Meme Coins: The hosts have a small, managed fund dedicated to "shitcoins." They view it as a high-risk, high-reward way to get exposure to the volatile meme coin space without having to research it themselves. They mentioned the Trump coin as an example of a trade they wished their manager had been more aggressive on.
  • CryptoPunks (NFTs): They see these as the original, blue-chip NFT project. The floor price recently rose to $170,000 after an $8 million "sweep" by a single buyer. One host (Chris) is dollar-cost averaging into them, viewing them as a very long-term hold.

Other Stocks Mentioned

  • Robinhood (HOOD): A major holding for Chris (20% of his portfolio even after selling some). He trimmed 20% of his position after a massive run-up from $30 to $108 in a few months, which he felt happened much faster than expected.
  • AeroVironment (AVAV): A drone company that Chris bought into as part of a defense-tech theme. The stock "went nuts," and he has trimmed his position.
  • Figma (IPO): The hosts discussed the highly anticipated IPO of the interface design tool.
    • Bull Case: It's a foundational software platform with huge buy-in from its user base.
    • Bear Case / Risk: The valuation is high due to hype, and there's a long-term risk that foundational AI models could replicate its functionality, making it obsolete.
  • Opendoor (OPEN): Mentioned as a recent "short squeeze" stock. Chris made a quick, profitable trade on call options but sold before the biggest move up.
Ask about this postAnswers are grounded in this post's content.
Episode Description
Today on Dumb Money, why our Nvidia trade worked and how we're applying that to our next trade
About Dumb Money Live
Dumb Money Live

Dumb Money Live

By Dumb Money

Dave Hanson, Chris Camillo and Jordan Mclain are Dumb Money. These longtime friends sold their tech startup, quit their day jobs, and decided to become full-time investors.