UNTIL This Happens... FORGET Bitcoin All-Time Highs! [Here's Why]
UNTIL This Happens... FORGET Bitcoin All-Time Highs! [Here's Why]
177 days agoโ€ขCrypto Banter
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Quick Insights

Consider reducing exposure to altcoins, as a further 60-70% drop is anticipated, and view any short-term rally as a potential opportunity to sell. For Bitcoin, watch for a move up to the $108,000 resistance area, as a price rejection there would be a key bearish signal for a drop below $98,000. To actively generate returns, consider "airdrop farming" by trading on platforms like Gravity on zkSync to earn points for a future token. Another opportunity is to trade on the CoinW exchange to accumulate points for its upcoming CEX token launch, a theme expected to perform well next year. A long-term bullish catalyst is developing for Zcash (ZEC), as a new treasury plans to accumulate up to 5% of the total supply.

Detailed Analysis

Bitcoin (BTC)

  • The speaker, Fefe, is currently bearish on Bitcoin in the short term. He has a bet that Bitcoin will drop below $98,000 before it reaches a new all-time high.
  • He argues that you cannot talk about all-time highs until the market structure shifts from bearish (lower highs and lower lows) to bullish (making a higher high).
  • The first major resistance level to watch is $111,236. A daily candle close above this level would be a very strong bullish confirmation, signaling a potential reversal.
  • He expects markets to retrace to the 50% Fibonacci level, which for Bitcoin is around $107,659 (or $108,000). He believes this level is just a "bearish order block" and a rejection from here would be "extremely bad" for the price.
  • Best Case Scenario (next 2 weeks): Bitcoin pushes up towards the $108,000 - $111,000 resistance area, potentially wicking through it, before reversing lower.
  • Worst Case Scenario: Bitcoin does not bounce at all and "nukes" directly down from its current price.
  • The Fear and Greed Index is at 15 (Extreme Fear). While some see this as a bullish sign, the speaker warns that in the past, the market has remained in "Extreme Fear" for long periods while the price continued to drop significantly (e.g., a 140-day period where Bitcoin fell 30% while in Extreme Fear).

Takeaways

  • Key Bullish Signal: Watch for a decisive break and daily close above $111,236. This would be the first sign that the bearish trend is reversing and all-time highs could be back on the table.
  • Key Bearish Signal: Watch for price to reach the $108,000 area and get rejected. According to the speaker, this would be a very bearish sign and could lead to a significant drop.
  • Overall Sentiment: The speaker's primary expectation is for more downside. He believes it's more likely for Bitcoin to drop below $98,000 than to make a new all-time high from current levels. He warns against being a "brainless bull" just because the price is down.

Altcoins (General)

  • The speaker believes the "bull market is over" for now and that most altcoins will go down another 60-70%.
  • He notes the current drawdowns in major narratives:
    • Agents: down 83%
    • Gaming: down 75%
    • AI and DePIN: down 70%
    • Modular: down 65%
    • Meme coins: down 52%
  • He shares a personal cautionary tale from 2022 where he lost $600,000 in two weeks because he didn't sell when he was down 40%, thinking it couldn't go much lower. He warns that an asset being down 50% does not prevent it from falling another 70%.

Takeaways

  • Exercise extreme caution with altcoin holdings. The speaker anticipates significant further downside across the altcoin market.
  • A large price drop does not automatically mean an asset is a good buy. Capitulation could get much worse.
  • The speaker suggests that if a relief rally (retrace) happens, it would be "foolish" not to consider selling to reduce risk.

Investment Theme: Centralized Exchange (CEX) Tokens

  • The speaker believes that Centralized Exchange (CEX) tokens are going to be the "biggest meta next year."
  • The reasoning is that many of these large exchange companies are expected to go public, and launching a token is part of that process.
  • He specifically highlights CoinW, a major centralized exchange, which is launching its own token. Users can earn points by trading on the platform, and these points will translate into an allocation of the new token.

Takeaways

  • Consider researching and monitoring tokens associated with major centralized exchanges as a potential high-growth sector for the next year.
  • The upcoming CoinW token launch is presented as a specific opportunity. Users can potentially "farm" this token for free by trading on the platform and earning points before the official launch.

Investment Strategy: Airdrop Farming

  • Presented as a key strategy to make money during a bear market. This involves using new protocols and platforms to generate activity (trading volume, etc.) to qualify for future airdrops of their native tokens.
  • Two specific opportunities were mentioned:
    • Gravity: A perpetual derivatives exchange (perp DEX) on the zkSync network. Users can trade on the platform to generate points, which may convert into a "massive" airdrop.
    • CoinW: As mentioned above, trading on this centralized exchange earns points that will convert to their new token.
  • The speaker referenced the Hyperliquid airdrop as an example of the potential, stating he knows of people who turned a $5,000 trading investment into $3 million.

Takeaways

  • For active traders, consider allocating a portion of your trading activity to new platforms like Gravity (on zkSync) and CoinW that have point systems and confirmed future tokens.
  • This is not a passive investment; it requires actively using the platforms. The goal is to generate points that could convert into a valuable airdrop in the future. This strategy carries its own risks related to platform security and the ultimate value of the airdropped token.

Zcash (ZEC)

  • A news item was mentioned that "Vehicle was trends" is creating a Zcash treasury.
  • The goal of this treasury is to accumulate up to 5% of the total Zcash (ZEC) supply.

Takeaways

  • This could be a bullish long-term catalyst for ZEC. A large entity consistently buying and holding up to 5% of the supply would create significant buying pressure and reduce the amount of ZEC available on the open market.

Investment Theme: AI Stocks

  • It was noted that famous investor Michael Burry (from "The Big Short") had been "massively" shorting AI stocks, including NVIDIA (NVDA).
  • However, the speaker mentions a report that Burry is now shutting down his fund and taking a loss on these short positions.

Takeaways

  • The fact that a prominent bear on AI stocks is reportedly capitulating (giving up and closing his short positions at a loss) can be seen as a sign of strength for the AI sector. It suggests the upward momentum in AI-related stocks may continue.

General Market Outlook (Macro)

  • The speaker is very bearish on the macro environment in the short-to-medium term, believing a market crash is coming between now and March/April.
  • He speculates that the government shutdown and the potential non-release of October's CPI (inflation) data are being used to "set up a stage." This gives the Federal Reserve an excuse to not cut rates (or even pause), which would be "catastrophic for the markets."
  • Long-term, he references a historical cycle chart (dating back to 1875) that has accurately predicted major tops and bottoms. According to this chart:
    • 2026 is predicted to be a major market top (a time to "get out a little bit").
    • 2035 is predicted to be an even larger top (a time to "get out big").

Takeaways

  • Be prepared for high volatility and a potential market-wide crash in the next 3-6 months. The speaker sees the current political and economic data situation as a potential trigger.
  • From a very long-term perspective, the speaker is targeting 2026 as the peak of the next bull cycle and a time to take significant profits off the table.
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