You've Reached Coast FI. Should You Keep Investing or Spend More?
You've Reached Coast FI. Should You Keep Investing or Spend More?
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Quick Insights
  • If pursuing Coast FI, use your own assumptions to model the target: the example of $500,000 at age 30 growing at 7% real annually to $5 million by 65 is illustrative, not guaranteed.
  • Before changing retirement contributions, take any 401(k) employer match into account and weigh tax benefits against access to money you may need before retirement.
  • If entrepreneurship or another near-term transition is likely, consider keeping one to two years of spending in liquid savings, as suggested in the discussion, while accounting for the trade-off with tax-advantaged investing.
  • Before buying a home, recalculate your Coast FI timeline: down-payment funds and home costs cannot also count toward the same investment target.
Detailed Analysis

Coast FI Portfolio Strategy

  • Coast FI was described as having enough invested that the portfolio is projected to fund retirement at a later age without further contributions.
  • Scott gave a personal example: $500,000 by age 30, growing to $5 million by age 65 assuming 7% real annual growth, which would support $200,000 per year in inflation-adjusted withdrawals using the 4% rule.
  • That example depends on its stated growth and withdrawal assumptions; it was not presented as a universal target or guarantee.
  • The discussion framed Coast FI as a milestone that buys options—not necessarily a point where someone stops investing. People may spend more, earn less, pursue a business, or keep investing to bring retirement forward.

Takeaways

  • Treat Coast FI calculations as projections based on explicit assumptions, not a promise of future income.
  • Decide what options you want Coast FI to fund before changing contributions. A house purchase or other use of the money can alter the plan and delay financial independence.
  • Revisit the plan as your income, expenses, tax situation, and goals change.

401(k), Roth, and Other Retirement Accounts

  • The hosts discussed using tax-advantaged accounts to build a Coast FI portfolio, including 401(k) contributions and a possible mega backdoor Roth contribution.
  • Scott argued that account choices should reflect the likelihood of needing money for goals before traditional retirement age. Retirement accounts may be less suitable for near-term entrepreneurial or other spending needs.
  • He offered a conditional example: for someone pursuing entrepreneurship, he said he personally would take an employer match but would not defer income in the 12% tax bracket; he would be more inclined to defer once income is in the 22% bracket. He also said someone with a clear plan to work less while covering expenses may reasonably prioritize retirement accounts.
  • The discussion noted potential tax consequences and the need for a liquidity bridge if money is needed before retirement-account access is practical.

Takeaways

  • Consider the trade-off between tax advantages and access to funds when choosing how much to put into retirement accounts.
  • The hosts’ tax-bracket examples were personal and conditional, not blanket recommendations; the right choice depends on an individual’s circumstances and plans.
  • If your goal is simply to reduce work while covering expenses, the discussion suggests retirement-account contributions may still fit. If you may pursue a business or need near-term capital, plan for liquidity as well.

Taxable Brokerage and Liquid Savings

  • Evan said he was directing income from social media work into a brokerage account and considering how much to keep liquid versus contribute to retirement accounts.
  • His current idea was to build liquid savings equal to one to two years of spending, while continuing to invest W-2 income toward his Coast FI goal.
  • Scott emphasized that liquidity can support options such as self-employment or other opportunities, but money kept outside tax-advantaged accounts may forgo some tax benefits.

Takeaways

  • If you may need funds for a transition or business opportunity, account for that need when setting your cash and taxable-investment balances.
  • Compare the value of flexibility with the tax advantages of retirement accounts; the transcript does not provide a universally optimal split.

Home Purchase and Real Estate

  • Buying a house came up as a common Coast FI trade-off. Redirecting monthly investments toward a down payment—or reallocating assets already counted toward Coast FI—can change the retirement timeline.
  • The hosts stressed that money used for a house down payment is no longer invested toward the same Coast FI target.
  • Real estate investing was mentioned as an example of an active investment path. Scott also described using personal effort and liquidity to pursue opportunities, while noting that outcomes can vary.

Takeaways

  • Before buying a home, assess how the down payment and ongoing costs affect the portfolio and timeline you are counting on.
  • Do not count the same dollars simultaneously toward both a Coast FI portfolio and a home purchase.
  • The discussion offered no specific property, market, or real estate return target.

Entrepreneurship and Active Investing

  • Evan identified entrepreneurship as his most likely use of the flexibility built through Coast FI, estimating a 50% chance; he assigned 30% to continuing his current path while trying to bring retirement forward, and 20% to uncertainty.
  • Scott said active opportunities that involve a person’s own skills or effort may have different potential than passive investments. He said he does not think investors can beat the market through many passive investments, but believes some active approaches may offer that possibility.
  • The hosts also noted that entrepreneurial income can be uncertain, including the possibility of a bad year or little income. Taxable liquidity may help manage that uncertainty.

Takeaways

  • If entrepreneurship is a serious possibility, consider whether your investment and account structure leaves enough accessible capital for a transition.
  • Treat potential active-investment returns as uncertain: the transcript describes possible upside, not a guaranteed ability to outperform.
  • Consider how you would manage a low-income year before relying on a new venture to cover expenses.

Tax and Healthcare Planning

  • The discussion highlighted that tax brackets can affect whether tax-deferred contributions are attractive, especially when income or employment plans may change.
  • The hosts also mentioned that income thresholds can affect ACA healthcare benefits, and that earning or realizing more income may change taxes or healthcare costs.
  • They described these as planning complications rather than specific thresholds or individualized advice.

Takeaways

  • Include taxes and healthcare costs in plans for reduced work, self-employment, or early financial independence.
  • Check how changes in income, withdrawals, or realized gains could affect your overall plan; the transcript does not specify applicable thresholds.

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Episode Description
What should you do once you reach Coast FI? Keep investing and move closer to full financial independence, spend more and enjoy life now, or use that financial security to take a career risk? BiggerPockets Money co-host Scott Trench and Evan Lawler break down what Coast FI actually makes possible and why reaching your number doesn't mean you should stop thinking about your financial future. They explore how entrepreneurship, buying a home, taxes, employer matches, and access to your investments should influence your next move. Plus, they discuss the trade-offs between tax-advantaged retirement accounts and liquid investments, and why the best Coast FI plan leaves room for life to change. To go beyond the podcast: Interested in working with Nectarine? Go to https://biggerpocketsmoney.com/nectarine Interested in Learning More About Buying a Franchise? Check out: biggerpocketsmoney.com/franzy Get 50% Off Your First Year of Monarch by using code ‘Pockets’: https://www.monarch.com/pockets Connect with Evan Lawler: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_financialfoundation/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@The_FinancialFoundation  We believe financial independence is attainable for anyone no matter when or where you’re starting. Let’s get your financial house in order! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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